Star Wars Visions discussion thread

Could be cool.

I just binged all 9 episodes and was about to create a discussion thread if someone hadn't already. I gotta say, I really enjoyed them. Especially the first one, which I think kicked things off with a bang. It wasn't so much a story as it was a fight scene, with a really cool twist at the end. Actually, several episodes had interesting twists and takes that I really appreciated. A fresh and fun approach I think!

Woot Woot!

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I liked the episodes but have one critique. However my critique is easy to counter, given the history and culture from whence these episodes came. My issue was that a lot of the episodes centered around lightsabers and gave them what I would consider "non-canon importance". In the cannon universe, lightsabers would not mean the same to Jedi or Sith as they did to characters in Visions. In the cannon universe, to the Jedi or Sith, a lightsaber is a tool, not something to be honored or revered with awe or mysticism. That way leads to the dark side, at least for a Jedi as any attachments to people or things can lead to emotions that can then possibly lead to the dark side. Not so in visions. However I imagine this is due to the fact that every Visions episode came from Japan where they have a history of the Samurai and swords that are revered. it's a cultural thing but IMHO does not fit in the canon Star Wars universe. Just my opinion.

I still stand by my earlier statement.

On a similar note, I myself have no problems with saber designs that for whatever reasons do not fit in the canon universe. However IMHO, those types of designs should not be used in official Star Wars content. I love engraved sabers, Light Side or Dark Side themed but I personally believe that in Star Wars canon, only Sith would possibly care what their sabers look like, not Jedi. Jedi are basically supposed to behave like Star Trek Vulcans in order to not turn to the Dark Side, lol. *runs for cover*

On the other devil's advocate hand, some Jedi have trouble controlling their emotions and might express some of that in their saber design. Satele Shan's saber-staff from SWTOR is a good example of that and since she had a kid with a Republic trooper, she obviously had emotion control issues. Of course we all know that this is just a fan excuse as the real world reason is that the artist thought it looked cool and someone at Disney or Bioware said, "Yep. Looks cool. Use it." with zero f... thoughts given to what a Jedi saber would look like when taking the Jedi belief system into account.

I hear ya. I like the those things as fan made works of art but not as official Star Wars items. Hopefully Visions is not supposed to be at all canon. IMHO, it would be hard to explain if it was but corporate might find a way. *sigh* I may change my tune later on though as I can see how it opens up more doors to new fans when they come of age and want to spend a grand on a custom saber. I used to hate the Darksaber with a passion because of the whole black blade concept and also in part, the blade shape but the Mando version has grown on me. I might buy the Black Series version of it one day. There can often be a cool factor to absolute BS and impracticability when it comes to weapons.

I never said lightsabers aren't significant to the Star Wars universe, especially to the fans. I only stated that they way the movies themselves have stated, not implied but outright stated, the way Jedi are, lightsabers should be nothing but a plain tube with a button that Jedi consider to be an important self defense tool, not an expression of their personality. Not made from found parts either as that could lead to explosions, lol. Just a plain tube with a button. Of course that would be boring to us fans so thankfully they are not that way but technically they should be because of the way the prequels have depicted Jedi. If you're gonna make something like that canon, you should stick to your guns or retract completely. STNG had to do that with the whole "Warp travel is ripping holes in space time and destroying the universe so now we have to slow down and only use speeds above Warp 5 in emergencies". That was the biggest mistake that franchise made and when they realized it, they quickly distanced themselves from it and pretended it never happened. Easy to do in a TV series with over 20 episodes a season. Not so much a movie franchise. The writers have made so many mistakes and contradictions in the SW movies, its ridiculous but at some point you have to stick to the main points you've introduced if you've shown or talked about those points across multiple movies. I personally think a big limitation to the story telling was making it so that the Force itself can influence your behavior. That's like saying "The Devil made me do it" and having that be a legitimate, literal and real statement. As such, it should be a valid legal defense, in the SW universe, lol. However that became a major plot point from the beginning and they have, will and need to continue to stick to that limitation for all time. Do you hear me Michael Stackpole the author? Because I don't think you do.

That said, I was hoping that Visions was going to stay true to SW canon ideas and was disappointed that it didn't. They are fun stories and cool looking saber designs and blades but are definitely not true to the spirit of SW canon. As long as Disney feels that they are definitely not canon either like you have stated, then I'm a happy camper. I'm only posting this thread because I wanted canon stories and got fan fiction instead. Nothing wrong with fan fiction but that's not what I wanted this time around.

Again to be clear, when it comes to lightsaber props us fans get to hold in our hands and play with, for me the sky's the limit with the designs of the hilts and the blades. I'm down for all the non-canon stuff. All this content from me is only regarding to official Disney/Lucasfilm SW content.

oh you guys...🙄 EVERYTHING,,, is better "with" LIGHTSABERS🤣😂😅

😆 As we were all discussing this,I was thinking,John Wick...🤟🏻😲🤟🏻

Yeah I totally get you,Obi-Shane,I think maybe my preconceptions of "this is Star Wars,it must do it like THIS," may have coloured my critique,but it was more that I just wasn't fond of a lot of the stories.With that being said,an episode breakdown/reactions is a good idea- there's probably something all of us liked in almost every ep,it'd be interesting to see what particularly pleased or griped everybody.

This series definitely had the feeling of a What If or an Elseworlds,as indeed they are pre-acknowledged to be outside of canon,more like an experiment,& all that's fine.Like Arkm says,technically every non-canon lightsaber any of us makes is just fan fiction (guilty! 😅 ),& that can only add to the flavour across this wonderful universe.👍🏻